The sex was consensual and certainly it is nothing that George needs to set his hooks into, right George?
Alvarez cover up for Villagomez and who else?
Judges, Powerful People, family, and sexual deviants.
Smith was given the opportunity to quash; then he would have been compromised in the future to cover up like Alvarez did and most likely ....
CORPUS CHRISTI — Supporters of Police Chief Bryan Smith addressed the city council Tuesday asking that he stay as the city’s top officer.
After hearing evidence, a grand jury on Friday decided not to indict Smith on an accusation that he sexually assaulted an ex-girlfriend on April 21.
Smith has been on leave, using his accrued vacation time since his accuser told police investigators why she was at area hospital that Smith had sexually assaulted her. City Manager Skip Noe is deciding what his future employment status will be.
Smith, 46, in a prepared statement and through his attorney, denied the allegations and is on voluntary paid leave until the city’s investigation is complete.
Smith’s parents, Hugh and Eleanor, his fiancĂ©, Patricia Zavodsky, and her parents attended the city council meeting but did not speak before the council.
Zavodsky said later the couple still is engaged and they are making wedding plans.
“Of course we’re behind Bryan 100 percent and want him to get back to work as soon as possible,” she said, speaking for herself and their parents.
Kelly Knight, one of six who spoke on Smith’s behalf, said he has been a advocate for all crime victims, and worked specifically on her behalf to keep the man who pushed her off a balcony behind bars.
“Bryan Smith is honest and compassionate and extremely important to the city of Corpus Christi,” she said.
Joan Veith called Smith a good friend and said the grand jury represented the legal side of the issue and found no fault.
“I would hate to see anyone with such innovative ideas for our police department be swept aside because of perhaps an indiscretion,” she said. “He should be kept as chief of police because he is law enforcement. He has it in his heart, mind and soul and we don’t want to throw that out.”
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Posted by latinking on May 29, 2007 at 1:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Innovative ideas! Tasering citizens, impoundings vehicles of the poor who cannot aford liability insurance. He needs to go back to the traffic division where he can get other opportunities to pull over more females to rape. He got away with indictment because of Carlos Valdez and his position as police chief, lets not reward his bad morals and place him where he can do more harm. I say at least demote where he can do no harm if we must keep him in CCPD.
Jaime Kenedeno:
" Innovative ideas! Tasering citizens, impoundings vehicles of the poor who cannot aford liability insurance."
LK when you say tasering citizens, aren't you referring to the department's new acquisition of Tasers and the training of officers in their use?
The training includes the tasing of the Officers as well. Smith has been the one to take the shock in a number of demonstrations.
For one involved in a level of violence requiring force; the officers now have another option before using deadly force. It is something I want nothing to do with.
In the impounding of the uninsured vehicles; certainly before getting a vehicle out of the impound one must provide proof of financial responsibility among several other items in order to get it out. We need to find a way for every vehicle to be insured and the insurance companies need to pay for it along with the auto industry and a few others.
He needs to go back to the traffic division where he can get other opportunities to pull over more females to rape.
JK: Now, there is a logical reason to keep him.
He got away with indictment because of Carlos Valdez and his position as police chief, lets not reward his bad morals and place him where he can do more harm.
Carlos Valdez wanted to write another book but there is nothing there.
I think Guido nutshelled it for us:
Unless there is a fairly copious amount of vaginal tearing indicating that the sex was most likely not consensual, this case is going to be a pretty big loser for the prosecution, regardless of whether a rape occurred or not.
First, there are only two witnesses to the alleged offense, the accuser and the accused. Second, any defense attorney worth his salt will point out that the suspect texted her that he was outside--a locked door. The victim will likely be grilled about why she just didn''t call police. Then, he will jump on the fact that she said she still loves him. By the end of her testimony, he will have the jury accepting the premise that she is a jilted woman trying to get her man back by anyway possible.
I say at least demote where he can do no harm if we must keep him in CCPD.
Jaime Kenedeno: The officers are behind him and so is the POA there is not a legitimate reason to demote him. Also, Bryan Smith retains the support of the local community leaders.Posted by fashionista on May 29, 2007 at 1:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
the blind leading the blind. The man proposes to his girlfriend and has a booty call with the ex and he's a man of intergrity and character...WOW!!! Oh yes! Let's keep him! He's a man of honor and high moral standards...a note to fiance'...get off a sinking ship. The grand jury should not have issued a no bill. Obviously, the word of a man against dance instructor was good enough for the grand jury (and rightly so), but not good enough for a police chief to go to trial...City Councilman Bill Kelly said to the news media on Friday that he supports Smith, well, as someone who has voted for Mr. Kelly in the past will now vote for someone else. I can't support a man who supports a man who has no moral standards, no intergrity and no character. Funny, the radio talk show hosts who demanded the impeachment of Clinton because of his indiscretion are supporting Smith....color me surprised.
JK: Is that what scorned woman syndrome is? You seem to be very knowledgeable of the relationship parameters between the ones involved yet the
Posted by maryjanecortinas on May 29, 2007 at 2:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Integrity? Excuse me but wasn't he driving drunk when he went to see his ex? I guess it's okay for a citizen to get pulled over locked up for driving drunk but the police chief is above the law. I have no respect for this man what so ever. I guess his fiance got a taste of her doing. Now he was sleeping with the ex while engaged to her. I guess the shoe was on the other foot. I wonder how she liked it being on the other side. Just like she was seeing him when he had been living with his ex. I hope she has enough common sense to realize that if he cheated on the ex girlfriend,and then cheated on her he will do it again. This man has no morals and this is what our City wants to represent the Sparkling City by the Sea. Where are all these groups that are always out there protesting the morals of our other city officials? The group that is so gunho at impeaching Melody Cooper needs to get on this band wagon.
Posted by sunglow2002 on May 29, 2007 at 2:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
City of Corpus Christi has just turned into a "Big Sleaze Town" everyone needs to wake up and realize that we have top officials representing corpus as a sleaze town, first the CCISD superintendent spends our money at a strip bar, then a city council woman turned crooked and now faces a fine, then the cheif of police is caught cheating on girlfriend with an ex and might we add drunk. What the hell is all this mess. Someone needs to clean house and wipe away all the trash we have around here starting with the city manager. I'm ashamed to say I live in Corpus Christi.
Posted by txorange11 on May 29, 2007 at 3:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Well, it is a law that you have liability insurance.... poor or not, its a law. In order for a police officer to carry a taser or pepper spray, they must be tased in the back/ leg or sprayed in the face with it, and it is on a voluntary basis. So, they know what it's like and they don't just randomly use it. Furthermore, it has never been stated, and only the Grand Jury knows for sure if he was really drunk, if they did have sex, etc.... Why is it any of your business if he did have sex...the only one who should care is his fiance. Let her decide if she wants to stand by her man or not. There are many men and women in this world who cheat on their significant other. Some people just make bad choices. Doesn't mean they are bad people. Why else do people go to confession..duh, to confess their sins.....Obviously if there was no evidence that he was drunk or the grand jury would have acted on this as well. Everyone should just get over it and let the man get back to work. I'm curious though if there is going to be a lawsuit for defimation of character or filing a false report. But, remember the phrase, 'Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.'
Posted by dgtx_814 on May 29, 2007 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Im sorry for everyone who feels ashamed to say they live in Corpus Christi. First of all let the one without sin cast the first stone. Chief Smith may have not used good judgment in doing what is alleged but he is a good leader. We have to follow a leader for all if not most of our daily operations but if reasonable people feel they have to follow a leader in every decision they make then I feel sad for all adults in this city not to mention those that are leaders and especially parents. I hope that all people make proper decisions for themselves in everything that they do and not have to look to a leader, or boss or anyone of stature to know how to use good moral judgement or character. Isn't that what our parents tried to teach us when we were kids? Be a leader not a follower. I strongly feel that Chielf Smith is a good leaderand will run our police department effectively. When he was a commander and worked closely with the Crime Control and Prevention District I was very pleased with the way he advocated for all the programs funded by crime control and I continue to believe that he will continue to do a great job as our Chief of Police.
Posted by vpguevara on May 29, 2007 at 4:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
yes, let's have a police chief who is an honest law abiding citizen represent our city. what a disgrace. has anyone wondered why there was never an arrest? he sure was treated like any other citizen. what a joke! anyone else would have been arrested, handcuffed, and made to post bail with nothing more than an accusation of an assault. the police chief admits to being with the victim (drunk or sober he was still with her) the night of the alleged incident and gets to walk away on paid leave while the investigation is being conducted. if i was someone who was "wrongfully accused" and had the humiliation of being arrested and made to come up with the money to post bail i would get a lawyer to sue the city for not treating the bryan smith like every other citizen. kobe bryant got arrested and had to post bail but hey our police chief is above that and gets to just go on a paid vacation. lets all ask ourselves if bryan smith was drunk.....was he walking?? no probably not. that means he probably was also driving while intoxicated. wow what a role model for our children. don't drink and drive unless you're the police chief and can get away with it. a note to his fiance....run! no woman should ever be publicly humiliated and this affair should have been a slap in the face. how many other women did bryan smith lie to?
Posted by txorange11 on May 29, 2007 at 4:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Obviously there wasn't enough proof in the beginning to warrant an arrest... just public embarrassment.
I say again....
Obviously if there was no evidence that he was drunk or the grand jury would have acted on this as well. Everyone should just get over it and let the man get back to work!
Posted by guest on May 29, 2007 at 4:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
How do you know that he was driving drunk? Were you there?
Posted by foxyroxy_78412 on May 29, 2007 at 4:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I feel sick that our police chief has the poor character to have sex with his ex girlfriend, while engaged to another. It is not alleged, he admitted to it. I know nothing more about the man than his name and his actions, but i do know i would not want to stand next to him in line at the store. I surely do not want him in charge of the Police Force of Corpus Christi.
Posted by FTWJohnQPublic on May 29, 2007 at 5:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I applaud Chief Smith for his service to the city of Corpus Christi. He has a tough job, especially since fifty percent of the people in Corpus are criminals, and the other half are hypocrites. Ok…Ok…my numbers are off because I didn’t count the people who normally standby silent and do nothing.
Regardless of your stance on this current issue (which will soon be history with the next big headline) Chief Smith is knocking criminals over like trees. Not only is he locking-up sex offenders and vandals, he is putting technology in the hands of street officers that will ultimately benefit the public. Plus, Chief Smith has revived the Corpus Christi police department after ten years of dormancy.
Too many people in this forum are shouting from their ivory towers that this is a “Moral” problem…like they are the Patron Saints of Virginity. Hey lets face it; we are all sinners in one form or another. Everyone has a past and everyone has a future. Luckily some of us can ask for forgiveness during confessions. Weigh it out…Smith has more positives than negatives, besides WWJD.
Oh yea…I like Chief Smith’s idea of impounding “poor” people cars because they can’t afford liability insurance. That sucks for “poor” people almost as much as it would suck for me, when involved an accident with them. After all, if they can’t afford insurance because they are “poor”, then how are they going to fix my car? Oh wait…again I guess I’ll be the responsible one and pay more for peace of mind, just in case they wreck into me. If you can’t afford liability insurance (especially because of your 5 prior DWI’s) then you need to take the bus…just think of yourself as being eco-friendly instead of irresponsible.
Posted by dmposes on May 29, 2007 at 5:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow! I am reading all these comments and they are all filled with such passion! First of all, we can all recall the Monica and Bill situation. Some say it did not hinder his ability to "lead" his country, however, I beg to differ. He was struggling so hard to stay out of the limelight and let things be that I believe his presidency did suffer. When you are a leader, whether it be the leader of a country, the leader of a city, or a teacher leading her classroom, you are a person who is deserving of respect and that respect is EARNED. Yes, we all make mistakes, however, when we make foolish mistakes that impact our daily lives as did Bill Clinton and Bryan Smith, then everyone loses...the people, the city, and the leader himself. Past behavior predicts future behavior. I'd love for someone to prove me wrong! Still waiting........
Posted by tktamez on May 29, 2007 at 6:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yes dmposers. To answer your question, some past behaviors DO PREDICT future behavior. Duh. Protocol was not followed wtih him, and everyone that knows the protocol ( look up SUSPECT and the protocol for questioning one. He was not questioned by the police that weekend. Yes, he may have called his department and said, " hey i heard i was accused of something, and i didn't do it " and they may have said " ok chief " see you on Monday" But that isn't protocol. If it had been my son, or your son, would they have at least been taken to the station that weekend for questioning ?? I think so. Would they have been allowed to ROME around Corpus Christi ALL WEEK END., without being OFFICIALLY questioned? I think not ! I don't think the grand jury ruled " no bill" until recently, Not while he was out on vacation, or the weekend of the rape. My my, what a system Corpus Christi has. Good ole boy. The " he works with us, ( City employee ) so he could not have done it attitude. By the way, i work for this city, so i have seen this attitude first hand.
I say , the City Council needs to hear it from the other side now, but you know what ??? THEY WON'T. The request has already been turned down. So Sad . Everyone just need to pray for our city. It's a shame..T.K.
Posted by vpguevara on May 29, 2007 at 8:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
hmmm.....maybe there wasn't enough proof that he was drunk because nobody brought the guy in for questioning????? of course there is no proof! the grand jury couldn't do act on it because the proper protocol was not followed. the man was not arrested! no one checked his blood alcohol level! yes i agree, let's let him get back to work so that the next time he is "wrongfully accused" of a crime he has enough vacation time to pay for his leave.
Posted by debbie on May 29, 2007 at 8:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Couldn't agree with you more...FTWJohnQPublic..."I like Chief Smith’s idea of impounding “poor” people cars because they can’t afford liability insurance. That sucks for “poor” people almost as much as it would suck for me, when involved an accident with them. After all, if they can’t afford insurance because they are “poor”, then how are they going to fix my car? Oh wait…again I guess I’ll be the responsible one and pay more for peace of mind, just in case they wreck into me. If you can’t afford liability insurance then you need to take the bus." Not to mention...It's the LAW!!!
Don't care if Chief Brian Smith is innocent or not, but it takes two to tango. I am sure he is not the only leader in this community, city or country with no morals...Bill Clinton with Hilary by his side!!!! Hmm...didn't he get to keep his job???
Posted by jillhaggerty on May 29, 2007 at 9:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If those who feel as negatively about Smith really want to see him ousted then you'd better write a letter and make a call to the office of the Mayor, Skip Noe and your District Council person stating so as soon as possible. Writing it out here on this newspaper website isn't going to do any good because these people are hearing publicly from Smith's supporters. If they don't hear or read anything against Smith then they will stupidly assume that no one wants him gone. If you have a problem with Smith then let the right people know about it, or else prepare to have our city live with the horrible consequences.
Posted by globalairsolutions2002 on May 29, 2007 at 10:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
We're all humans and acceptable to faults. Mr. Smith sholuld of known by putting himself in that particular situation. He got cuaght with his hands in the cookie jar and should be dealt with in the manner he represented himself. He is one of the highest ranking law enforcement officials in the coastal bend; and it's a shame that he can't admitt he was wrong to the citizens of Corpus Christi by putting his office in that negative situation and accepting some type of responsibility as a man and a positive role model not a negative one. Sorry for all the lives you interupted by your actions Cheif!
P.S. YOU KNOW IT WAS WRONG WHEITHER YOU DID OR NOT YOU HURT THE WOMEN IN YOUR LIFE AND THE CITY AND IT'S CITIZENS....
Posted by no on May 30, 2007 at 1:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Clinton? That's just the "mommy he did it first excuse."
Posted by no on May 30, 2007 at 1:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
He failed to show the judgment, character and principles expected, demanded and required of a man who is the police chief.
And that's regardless of it being rape or not rape.
Posted by Schlitrman on May 30, 2007 at 2:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey vpguevara,
Quoting from your post,
"hmmm.....maybe there wasn't enough proof that he was drunk because nobody brought the guy in for questioning????? of course there is no proof! the grand jury couldn't do act on it because the proper protocol was not followed. the man was not arrested! no one checked his blood alcohol level!..."
vp (may I call you vp?), the alleged victim did not make her report until approximately 12 hours after the alleged rape. Why? Probably so she could concoct her plan to destroy the Chief, but you would have to ask her. Oh! You can't. Her name was not released. So whatever alcohol in the Chief's blood (if there ever had been any) would have been gone by that time. She can't prove he was drunk, but he can't prove he was not. Part of the reason she waited perhaps?
When our alleged victim, alleged paragon of alleged virtue that you would have us believe her to be goes to the hospital for the sexual assault exam, a CCPD officer was called to take a police report. When this officer discovers that our alleged victim, alleged paragon of alleged virtue that you would have us believe her to be is accusing the Chief of Police of sexual assault, he, according to news reports, notifies his supervisor, who notifies the Chief. The Chief then calls in the Texas Rangers to take over the investigation believing it would not be proper for the CCPD to investigate their own boss. Do you know of a different protocol that should be followed in a case such as this? If so, please share it with us. The Chief also notifies his own boss, City Manager, Skip Noe, and voluntarily takes his OWN vacation time that he has earned and is entitled to use for any purpose. Doesn't sound like a nice vacation. Keep in mind, this is HIS vacation time, which the city would have to pay to him in any case whether this need for him to step away from his duties had come about or not. Channel 10 ran with this story last week about how much his "paid leave" was costing the city, but received a phone call from Skip Noe correcting them and stated that Chief Smith was saving the city money by using his vacation pay instead of administrative leave. It was only after the no-bill that Mr. Noe placed Smith on administrative leave pending the city's internal investigation. vp, you need to keep up to date on your facts.
vp, I just wonder about something and please be honest. If it were proven that the Chief's accuser acted out of spite, vindictiveness, and the hope of monetary gain (she hired civil attorney Abraham Moss within days of the initial report), would you be in favor of charging her with filing a false report to police? If she lied under oath, would you be in favor of charging her with perjury? Or is your contempt for Chief Smith at such a level that you would be willing to excuse such a level of misconduct just to get rid of him?
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